Update: People involved here are now officially 'MU'-mag Un, lol. They're lovers now, congrats and goodluck!:D
Fine, I’ve talk about religion in my blog (here and here) especially about Islam more than once already. This would be my first entry using my newly reformat notebook. But I can’t help writing about it again since I came upon by chance that one person I incompletely know yet might get a plan of converting back to his old religion (if I’m not mistaken) coz he’s kind falling-in-love for this not so long girl friend of mine, Abby. How sweet… Isn’t it? But the thing is I think he mentioned before that he converted to Islam coz his then fiancée was Islam. Now that he’s courting my Catholic girl friend, will he willingly convert back to his old religion if they would end up together? But as I said to Abby, I know Glen is smart enough to decide prudently and he surely got a smart reason, lol!:-P
It happens in real life. It most probably happens in movies, soap operas, plays, novels, etc. I remembered, I crammingly wrote a play entitled ‘Moro-moro’ (ala Romeo & Juliet play involving a battle between Christian & Muslim lovers) in high school coz the original copy in a book we had in our library was tattered out. My own version was even acquired by a different section in our level that made me so proud of myself. I think it’s the best poetic script about love I had ever written coz it’s perfectly done in 4 stanzas with pure and deep Tagalog words in it. Being in an all-Catholic-girls-school then, I was even chosen to have the Christian man’s character loving an Islam woman. And being an author of that play made me totally internalized my role more; loving against all odds...*kilig na kilig ako!,lol! (I’m giggling)* There was a war at the end part but the guy proved his love by converting from Christianity to Islam.
Seven years had passed since I wrote ‘Moro-moro’ but the memory of how I felt converting religion even in a play is still vivid. I felt like I had no choice in that 1 hour play because I love that woman so much and it takes conversion to have peace and unity to the existence around us. It takes a total switch to get me married to the one I wanted to spend my life with. I’m not sure if I could do it myself in real life though. It is maybe because the situation didn’t cross my way yet or because I didn’t have an exceptional religion during that era (until now. I don't call it religion searching anymore but the journey of experiencing God). Either way, I don’t really know.
Look, I may not really know but I still can’t totally agree with a guy converting religion just because of ‘marriage’. I knew a lot of people who converted because of marriage and ended up having arguments in their house and most awful, they separated. In my case, I think I could just convert into what my guy’s religion instead coz I still don’t have one for sure now yet. But I like to stress that I would thoroughly study one first before doing so coz it’s a decision not so far different from marrying, having kids, choosing a career, etc. Else, no need to convert as long as. I consider this, if Glenn didn’t convert and married his then fiancée (I think it’s allowed in Islam as long as you believe in God, I checked it here), what will their kids follow? Two gods in one house is like having two political parties lifting their beliefs to their children. So what I like to say is, learn more about a belief, don’t convert just because of marriage, else, have a compelling reason. Proving love perhaps? But honestly convert. Change for a belief that there’s God, for your self, not for other being.
By hook or by crook, I tip my hats off to people including Glen who could do changes in sensitive and significant religion stuff. I believe it takes a lot of courage, willingness and love to honestly convert religion if you love someone. Sacrificing a religion that a person got hooked on about is a hard decision of a lifetime coz it’s a matter of believing something else unless it’s quiet close to what you believe in.
Well good luck to both...
But and but, what’s your opinion about it?
It happens in real life. It most probably happens in movies, soap operas, plays, novels, etc. I remembered, I crammingly wrote a play entitled ‘Moro-moro’ (ala Romeo & Juliet play involving a battle between Christian & Muslim lovers) in high school coz the original copy in a book we had in our library was tattered out. My own version was even acquired by a different section in our level that made me so proud of myself. I think it’s the best poetic script about love I had ever written coz it’s perfectly done in 4 stanzas with pure and deep Tagalog words in it. Being in an all-Catholic-girls-school then, I was even chosen to have the Christian man’s character loving an Islam woman. And being an author of that play made me totally internalized my role more; loving against all odds...*kilig na kilig ako!,lol! (I’m giggling)* There was a war at the end part but the guy proved his love by converting from Christianity to Islam.
Seven years had passed since I wrote ‘Moro-moro’ but the memory of how I felt converting religion even in a play is still vivid. I felt like I had no choice in that 1 hour play because I love that woman so much and it takes conversion to have peace and unity to the existence around us. It takes a total switch to get me married to the one I wanted to spend my life with. I’m not sure if I could do it myself in real life though. It is maybe because the situation didn’t cross my way yet or because I didn’t have an exceptional religion during that era (until now. I don't call it religion searching anymore but the journey of experiencing God). Either way, I don’t really know.
Look, I may not really know but I still can’t totally agree with a guy converting religion just because of ‘marriage’. I knew a lot of people who converted because of marriage and ended up having arguments in their house and most awful, they separated. In my case, I think I could just convert into what my guy’s religion instead coz I still don’t have one for sure now yet. But I like to stress that I would thoroughly study one first before doing so coz it’s a decision not so far different from marrying, having kids, choosing a career, etc. Else, no need to convert as long as. I consider this, if Glenn didn’t convert and married his then fiancée (I think it’s allowed in Islam as long as you believe in God, I checked it here), what will their kids follow? Two gods in one house is like having two political parties lifting their beliefs to their children. So what I like to say is, learn more about a belief, don’t convert just because of marriage, else, have a compelling reason. Proving love perhaps? But honestly convert. Change for a belief that there’s God, for your self, not for other being.
By hook or by crook, I tip my hats off to people including Glen who could do changes in sensitive and significant religion stuff. I believe it takes a lot of courage, willingness and love to honestly convert religion if you love someone. Sacrificing a religion that a person got hooked on about is a hard decision of a lifetime coz it’s a matter of believing something else unless it’s quiet close to what you believe in.
Well good luck to both...
But and but, what’s your opinion about it?
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ei got a tag for you... :)
If the Babe is HOT I'll convert to whatever Baloney she wants me to believe in!
Scientology Kaballah KoolAid Nekkid Sexy Religion wif Multiple Sexy Wives on a Nude Beach*
;PPP
to billy: you arent serious billy, right? lol! i'd check that above.
to miah: thanks for taggin me! i appreciate.
to niharika: thanks for the info, i want my own of course..:D
-catea
love just makes you lose your mind.. :'(
lol! but aaaawww....really true pam. it loses our mind enough to forget that we were once sane and human
Hi Catea,
I couldn't post a comment due to the limitations imposed by our company to our Internet usage. Anyway, here's my reaction to your blog:
- A true lover looks past over his beloved's religion. It's the beloved that's important not her/his religion.
- If you really love someone, you will love her despite her religion and you shouldn't force him to change his religion.
However, religion normally brainwash their members NOT to marry someone outside their beliefs for the following reasons:
1. To have harmony in belief
2. To reduce the risk of losing a member
In essence, and this is my personal opinion, we should think about these thoughts:
- God made man NOT religion. So, what God cares about is man not his religion
- Man made religion with the delusion that in doing so, he can please God. In other words, religion is man's futile attempt to please God. On the contrary, the Bible say it's faith NOT religion that would please God (Hebrews 11:6).
You may react, isn't the idea I'm talking about came from Christian religion. Well, here's why:
1. There is God
2. There is Man
3. There is revelation from God (here religions vary)
It's so happen that for me, based on my research, there are only three reliable revelations from God:
1. The creation - it describes God in it's own subtle way
2. The Bible - tested by time, science, fulfilled prophecy, and changed lives
3. Jesus Christ - other prophets died and remain dead. He is the only one who died and lived again and rose to heaven.
Based on these three revelations, I judge which religion is true and which is not.
Any person who changes his religion is:
- confused, he/she doesn't know the truth
- lack of faith, easily swayed by "religious-tides"
- still searching for truth.
Love should be the sole reason to get married. Truth should be the only reason for belief. Faith is the only thing that pleases God. Jesus Christ is the only way to salvation.
Thanks.
thanks again santi, well explained. i couldnt react more now coz i agree in most of them. you made some points like, in marriage, love should be the reason and nothin else. one would make someone his behalf,marry him/her but not his/her religion.
regarding revelations?nah, i dont want to argue with you AGAIN with that.hhhmm...not here?lol:D
i dont want to change just because of marriage. well, for now, i have nothing to change IT for?lol
-catea
to love is to convert?
hmmm...that is a tricky one. isn't religion a way to love God? and thus conversion is thus proof of one's fickleness in one's belief and love in the divine? if one can so easily strip off one's way of of living the divine in his life, it thus, in effect, shows that religion then is not as important as it should be...making it a commodity to one's whims -- easily replaced according to one's preferences. So who needs religion then if it can be viewed as mundane and as ordinary as changing clothes?
a question comes to mind -- if religion is about loving the divine, essentially, it teaches about love in general...can it be that the question "to love is to convert?" is not a valid question?
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favor -- pls repost this entry catea and invite your friends to repost too...
it's a campaign to save the hatteras.
http://emptiedspaces.blogspot.com/2008/03/cry-to-save-hatteras-ocracoke.html
to be honest with you Leah, im always having bad time in making title (you’d notice the changes i made in ‘recent comments’), so yes, prolly that isn’t an appropriate question, lol! well(serious) truth is, i asked coz i don’t know really & i want to know different opinions.
religion is a very complex topic that a day isnt enough for a discussion. i respect your opinion, but regarding religion as a way to love god, i believe its just one of the ways. One of the most prominent way of loving him is to love ‘kapwa tao’/others as we love ourselves. and other ways are too long to be typed here:D and i dont want to say anything else as i might sound weak for my views coz im in the stage of redeeming the religion i grew up with(at least im trying).
btw, i did reformat my notebook and im quiet contended with it. Its not working well though, i could still see my drive D files but not my C(which where my most important files were). so im imagining its just somewhere hidden so i could keep my temper:-p
wait for the repost:)
-catea
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